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Thursday, April 06, 2006

The Gospel According to WHOM?????

Just introduced THIS amazing, and I'm certain, controversial find.


Blogger Lieutenant Dan said...

Hmmmm...if true, why did he hang himself?

3:46 AM  
Blogger FishrCutB8 said...

A couple of thoughts. He may have thought Jesus would still rise off the cross and smite the Romans. There has been a lot of speculation he was a memeber of the Zealots, who believed the Messiah would establish his Kingdom here by crushing the enemies of Israel. When He didn't, Judas felt the full enormity of what he had done.

Or, Judas saw the carnage of the cross, and felt the accompanying despair. I am hopeful for this account, because it humanizes one of the greatest villains of history.

Interesting question: Does Jesus include Judas when He said, "Father, forgive them, for they don't know what they are doing." I have always hoped He did. I don't know if it's Biblical or not, I've just always thought Judas really did not fully understand what he was doing, and thus was one of the points of that statement.

6:19 AM  
Blogger The Spaniard said...

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10:39 AM  
Blogger The Spaniard said...

Facts about the History and Geographical Location of Judas:

Judas is the Greek form of the Hebrew Judah, which means praise.
Iscariot means "man from Kerioth," a city in the Negev of the region in Jesus' day which was called Judea.

Judas was the only one of the twelve apostles, the scriptures record, not coming from Galilee. Galileans were looked down upon by Judeans.

Judea is where most of the priests lived since all the sacrifices had to be performed in Jerusalem.

The 30 pieces of silver was a small sum of money, the value of a slave (Exodus 21:32). If Judas were really covetous and greedy, why didn't he barter for much more?

Jesus chose Judas, not the other way around.

Jesus knew them before He picked them.

Prior to the betrayal, Judas' only recorded sin was stealing from the money box.

The other eleven apostles had accounts recorded of them of sins which included unbelief, lust for position and power, not being mindful of the things of the spirit but of man, all the disciples left Him, Peter denied Him three times in one night, falsely condemning people to fire when Jesus said He came to save, etc., etc..

Judas repented and made restitution,then declared Jesus innocent and confessed his sin. Thus - he fulfilled every requirement to be forgiven...maybe even esteemed?

All these things happened to fulfill prophesy that the Creator planned to be fulfilled at this time.

Judas was called "friend" by Jesus at the "betrayal"...was there a partnership of some sort involved in this "betrayal." ...does it really matter ??

If we weave all these pieces together, we can see that we can see some things we have never thought about before. Perhaps we can get a glimpse of the wisdom of our Father which will leave us amazed and a little more humbled.

10:48 AM  
Blogger The Spaniard said...

Oh...and if you think i'm "soft" on brother Judas - wait till you hear what i have to say about Pontious Pilate !

10:52 AM  
Blogger Lieutenant Dan said...

he sold-out his master and the committed suicide. not a very impressive resume for a disciple if you ask me!

5:12 PM  
Blogger TheRev said...

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4:17 AM  
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4:34 AM  
Blogger TheRev said...

In biblical scholarship circles, this discovery is a bit of a yawner. Nothing that new here, although the discovery of an ancient text always has some significance.

The Coptic Church has long revered Judas and Pilate as saints, because they believe these men were simply carrying out the will of God that Jesus die for our sins.

This is clearly a Gnostic writing, and the author(s) probably chose Judas as the "hero" simply because he coud be cast as misunderstood by the orthodox Christian community who also regarded the Gnostics as heretics and thus "traitors" to Christ, while they were convinced their faith was true and right.

There was a whole library of Gnostic writings that were discovered in 1945, at Nag Hammadi in the Egypt. The most interesting of them is the Gospel of Thomas, which most scholars agree probably has some historically valid information, but still has a lot of stuff that is very dubious.

There were several other "gospels" that were touted by various groups within the early church. The final canon (approved texts) was not established until the fourth century.

11:47 AM  
Blogger Behr Whitewash said...

Another interesting perspective..

7:07 AM  

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